skydiverek 63 #1 August 15, 2016 Here: http://www.unitedparachutetechnologies.com/PDF/Support/Manual/Manual_Sigma_MAN-013.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #2 August 15, 2016 QuoteREVISION LOG REV # CHANGES DATE 0.1 Malfunction procedure diagram corrected. Pg. 95, Section 4 7/20/2016Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fencebuster 7 #3 August 17, 2016 So, I am an old military guy who used checklists and emergency procedures as a part of my USMC aviator experience. The changes were usually explained by checklist and owners manual (NATOPS) in my experience and any change was highlighted. Looking at the decision tree in the updated manual, there is no indication of what has changed. This could lead to another fatal mistake. How about a highlighted change page, Bill Booth, so we don't have to guess what you changed with our limited intelligence.?Charlie Gittins, 540-327-2208 AFF-I, Sigma TI, IAD-I MEI, CFI-I, Senior Rigger Former DZO, Blue Ridge Skydiving Adventures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djmarvin 2 #4 August 17, 2016 I believe there is no change in EPs from the old manual to new manual, hence no revision list for EPS. How could no revision list to an unchanged set of procedures lead to a fatal mistake? DJ Marvin AFF I/E, Coach/E, USPA/UPT Tandem I/E http://www.theratingscenter.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #5 August 17, 2016 It is my understanding that it is the Side Spin branch which was previously omitted (but was present in the list of emergency procedures).Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdD 1 #6 August 17, 2016 Anyone else think it might be useful to have a written section on unusual situations? Strut hang-up, cameraman entangled with drogue, etc. ?Life is ez On the dz Every jumper's dream 3 rigs and an airstream Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #7 August 17, 2016 AdDcameraman entangled with drogue This one is covered there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parachutist 2 #8 August 17, 2016 AdDAnyone else think it might be useful to have a written section on unusual situations? Strut hang-up, cameraman entangled with drogue, etc. ? If there were some way to harness a Tom Noonan UPT seminar from a PIA convention, including all the Q&A afterwards, I think most any scenario would be covered. The videos accompanying his presentation make it feel so real, as if you were experiencing the mal yourself. But now there's a pause button and a narrator. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #9 August 18, 2016 parachutist***Anyone else think it might be useful to have a written section on unusual situations? Strut hang-up, cameraman entangled with drogue, etc. ? If there were some way to harness a Tom Noonan UPT seminar from a PIA convention, including all the Q&A afterwards, I think most any scenario would be covered. The videos accompanying his presentation make it feel so real, as if you were experiencing the mal yourself. But now there's a pause button and a narrator. Like this? (some videos redacted though)Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parachutist 2 #10 August 19, 2016 cpoxon******Anyone else think it might be useful to have a written section on unusual situations? Strut hang-up, cameraman entangled with drogue, etc. ? If there were some way to harness a Tom Noonan UPT seminar from a PIA convention, including all the Q&A afterwards, I think most any scenario would be covered. The videos accompanying his presentation make it feel so real, as if you were experiencing the mal yourself. But now there's a pause button and a narrator. Like this? (some videos redacted though) That's a start, but it doesn't compare to being there with a big screen view of the situations being described. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kawisixer01 0 #11 August 25, 2016 skydiverek***cameraman entangled with drogue This one is covered there. And it's complete rubbish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djmarvin 2 #12 August 26, 2016 kawisixer01******cameraman entangled with drogue This one is covered there. And it's complete rubbish. Why do you think it's rubbish? What do you believe the proper response to a jumper entangled with your drogue should be? DJ Marvin AFF I/E, Coach/E, USPA/UPT Tandem I/E http://www.theratingscenter.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #13 August 26, 2016 djmarvin*********cameraman entangled with drogue This one is covered there. And it's complete rubbish. Why do you think it's rubbish? What do you believe the proper response to a jumper entangled with your drogue should be? While I think the chaos of the situation may require some quick thinking and adaptive behavior/actions at the time, any other pre-plans seem to be frought with greater danger... as a plan getting rid of the entabled bridle/drougue/main AND falling/tracking clear of the mess does seem like a good idea. I would not want to be the entangled vidiot... but I'm not sure what the TI could to that wouldn't make it worse for all three of them... Open to additional ideas if you have one. JWAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #14 August 27, 2016 Revision lists or high-lights allow readers to quickly scan changes. The alternative is spending all day re-reading a boring manual to winkle out minor changes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
