If only I had known, I wouldn't have ordered Domino's Pizza

[RhondaLea 4]

There's a precedent:

http://www.oldandsold.com/articles24/america-49.shtml

The former is usually filled by the overflow from the latter, who object to the Ocean Grove restrictions. Ocean Grove is unique, and was established in 1870 by a Camp Meeting Association of the Methodist Episcopal Church. Here many thousands, both young and old, voluntarily spend their summer vacations under a religious autocracy and obey the strict rules. It is bounded by the sea, by lakes on the north and south, and by a high fence on the land side, and the gates are closed at ten o'clock at night, and all day Sunday. The drinking of alcoholic beverages and sale of tobacco are strictly prohibited, and no theatrical performances of any kind are allowed. No bathing, riding or driving are permitted on Sunday, and at other times the character of the bathing-dresses is carefully regulated. There is a large Auditorium, accommodating ten thousand people, and here are held innumerable religious meetings of all kinds. The annual Camp Meeting is the great event of the season, and among the attractions is an extensive and most complete model of the City of Jerusalem.

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[wmw999 2,411]

Yeah, it's been awhile since I had any Domino's either. Same reason. But, ya know -- as long as he doesn't limit who he sells to based on anything, and limits the business, he's probably within his rights.

There probably aren't a whole lot of seriously liberal people who will be interested in living there. He might find it hard in the long run to get a good range of medical personnel, but if he's close to Naples it probably doesn't matter too much.

Maybe it'll give the people who live there less reason to object to the rest of the world.

Wendy W.

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What it doesn't tell is is what is just outside the town. I'm thinking we could open a porn/boozes/condem store and actually make a lot of money

That's brilliant!

Well being a huge porn/boozes fan it wasn't hard to put the two together. When a majority of America identifies as religious yet porn and boozes sales remain consistent regardless of recessionary factors, its easy to assume that a constrained community will need such articles.

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And now we know why you feel the way you do.

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Yeah, it's been awhile since I had any Domino's either. Same reason.

Man, hasn't anyone noticed how much worse name brand (Domino's, Pizza Hut, etc.) is than your average corner pizza place? You shouldn't need a political reason to avoid them.

[Lindsey 0]

The problem will come when the people who move in have children who grow up and want to live in their home town....but don't believe the way their parents did. That's when the waters will be much more obviously murky.

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Yeah, it's been awhile since I had any Domino's either. Same reason.

Man, hasn't anyone noticed how much worse name brand (Domino's, Pizza Hut, etc.) is than your average corner pizza place? You shouldn't need a political reason to avoid them.

That was my first thought.

I looked at a Domino's pizza once, and I felt sick. The last time I ate Pizza Hut was probably 20 years ago, and it was only one time.

rl

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And now we know why you feel the way you do.

Doesn't make it any more valid, but at least we know.

whatever man. guess the logic escapes you.

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The problem will come when the people who move in have children who grow up and want to live in their home town....but don't believe the way their parents did. That's when the waters will be much more obviously murky.

don't believe people have a right to live in their hometown. Nevermind they can live nearby.

How desirable this sort of living space is will have a huge factor on the property values there are.

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What are your thoughts on them potentially accepting federal and state tax money to pay for services and infastructre and then excluding sectors of sociaty? Would it be acceptiable for them to accept 20 million dollars (random figures pulled out of the air) for them to get an Interstate ramp built and a sewage plant only to have the city prohibit a Synoghog or a Mosque from purchasing land if its properly zoned?

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[billvon 2,975]

>Man, hasn't anyone noticed how much worse name brand (Domino's,
>Pizza Hut, etc.) is than your average corner pizza place?

That's not pizza any more than pasteurized processed american cheese food is cheese. It's just something that fills people up when they're hungry.

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>Man, hasn't anyone noticed how much worse name brand (Domino's,
>Pizza Hut, etc.) is than your average corner pizza place?

That's not pizza any more than pasteurized processed american cheese food is cheese. It's just something that fills people up when they're hungry.

but but but papa john's bbq chicken pizza just frickin rocks, whether its REAL pizza or not. (although for the record, i DO prefer reall roman pizza, esp. w/ potatoes on it)

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Generally, the problem is always in the definition. People who are "true believers" soon have a problem agreeing on the definition of what constitutes the correct values.

Most of your narrowly defined churches have very small congregations because eventually someone accuses someone else of not being "committed" enough.

Like "drinking is ok, but being drunk is not". (A discussion that I have had.) Where do you draw these lines such that all will agree ?

[billvon 2,975]

>but but but papa john's bbq chicken pizza just frickin rocks, whether its REAL pizza or not.

Hey, just because it's not pizza doesn't mean it can't be good.

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I don't know how comfortable a non-Catholic would be living there, but unless they refuse to sell to non-Catholics, the issue, if any, will lie in the commercial lease restrictions.

And that will surely be interesting. (And I still don't see anything wrong with it.)

As I posted to Narcimund, I'm mostly arguing for the sake of arguing. On a broader scale I would have a problem with this, due to the whole "whites only" neighborhoods thing. However, in order to get to the point that I'd find issue, they'd first have to institute such a policy (presumably informal). Until then, I'm mostly cool with it.

5000 acres ain't much. I wonder how big they'd have to get to have an impact in the state legislature.

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What it doesn't tell is is what is just outside the town. I'm thinking we could open a porn/boozes/condem store and actually make a lot of money

I was thinking of buying a house and dealing directly from there.

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"Gov. Jeb Bush, at the site's groundbreaking earlier this month, lauded the development as a new kind of town where faith and freedom will merge to create a community of like-minded citizens."

By those standards, Iran is way ahead of us - and Afghanistan used to be.

What happened to that Libertarian view of "let people do as they like", Bill?

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"While the governor does not personally believe in abortion or pornography, the town, and any restrictions they may place on businesses choosing to locate there, must comply with the laws and constitution of the state and federal governments," Russell Schweiss, a spokesman for the governor, said Tuesday.

The Bush-bash doesn't sound as good when the rest of the article gets in there, hmm?

Mike
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[billvon 2,975]

>What happened to that Libertarian view of "let people do as they like", Bill?

I guess I wouldn't define a town where a great many things are proscribed as "letting people do what they like." It's sorta the antithesis of what a libertarian society would look like.

>The Bush-bash . . .

Wrong thread.

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>What happened to that Libertarian view of "let people do as they like", Bill?

I guess I wouldn't define a town where a great many things are proscribed as "letting people do what they like." It's sorta the antithesis of what a libertarian society would look like.

>The Bush-bash . . .

Wrong thread.

If that's what the owner and inhabitants agree to, then what is the problem? Forcing the owner / inhabitants to do something they don't wish to would be the libertarian antithesis...

Mike
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Isn't this almost exactly what the Pilgrims did?

Now, I might be a little shakey on my history, but didn't the Pilgrims come -well- BEFORE the US Constitution was written?

See, that's the issue here, the US Constitution and especially that First Amendment to it that says you can't make laws regarding certain things.

The Constitution says that certain laws cannot be made (regarding establishment of religion, freedom of speech, assembly, the press, etc.).

But if you come into my house, and start praying, I have the right to tell you that you may not stay in my house. If you're talking about private property, it's a property issue, not a laws issue. It's just like when someone owns a business and says that people may not bring guns into it. (Yeah, for all the good that will do him at preventing criminals from entering and robbing the place, I know.) The owner makes the rules. He can't make rules that attempt to legalize illegal behavior, but he can bar legal behavior that he doesn't want going on at his house.

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.... a business and says that people may not bring guns into it. (Yeah, for all the good that will do him at preventing criminals from entering and robbing the place....

Stop it! STOP IT!!!

As far as I can see,anyone can just live there if they want - but the shopping amenities in the town might be slightly limited at times.

To be honest, Even with my anti-church beliefs, I wouldn't have a problem living there. No porn on TV? So what! Sex has to be THE WORST "Spectator-Sport" ever! I'm guessing that contraceptives would be by prescription only (pharacists don't have a choice about filling prescriptions, right?). I have no problem with The Catholic Education System, my kids are in a Catholic School & it rocks - they don't have to comply with any of the politically correct Sex-Ed crap that state schools do!

And... If you DO happen to want something that's not on sale where you live, what do you usually do? For example; how many of you live in a place with it's own skydiving?

Mike.

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I'm guessing that contraceptives would be by prescription only (pharacists don't have a choice about filling prescriptions, right?).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5490-2005Mar27.html

From the article (which is far more thorough), the answer to your question:

Wisconsin is one of at least 11 states considering "conscience clause" laws that would protect pharmacists such as Noesen. Four states already have laws that specifically allow pharmacists to refuse to fill prescriptions that violate their beliefs. At the same time, at least four states are considering laws that would explicitly require pharmacists to fill all prescriptions.

The American Pharmacists Association recently reaffirmed its policy that pharmacists can refuse to fill prescriptions as long as they make sure customers can get their medications some other way.

If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

[Lindsey 0]

Not allowing people to live in a town who don't believe a certain way.....hmm. Utopia? I don't think so. From an academic standpoint I'd like to see what happens.

I had a good friend in college who grew up at a place called Meadowcreek in Fox, AR. This was a community project focused on using renewable energy resources, self-sustaining agriculture, and having minimal impact on the environment. It was a funded project, I believe. I spent a lot of time there in college, and they always had good beer. :) Homebrew.

Now this wasn't a town, but a little commune-type place just outside of a little town. They obviously owned the land, and nobody lived there who didn't do as they did. I don't know exactly how a community like this compares with what's being proposed in Florida. Of course it's a different group of people with different goals, but legally I wonder what the difference is.

I'm sure someone else can compare and contrast....

linz

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